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Title: Commander One
Post by: zmeyc on August 05, 2015, 03:50:14 PM
I've been playing with Commander One trial edition and it looks very nice.

I have a few questions / ideas:
- the app requested Accessibility Features on start, why does it need them?
- is it possible to configure Spacebar to select a file then go to the next line like FAR / MC does?
- is it possible to activate numeric keypad (PgUp, PgDn, Home, Ins to select etc) to work like in FAR? I see that gray "+" is already working.
- automatically CTRL-O-ing after executing the command would also be nice.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: zmeyc on August 05, 2015, 04:13:32 PM
Bug report: push SHIFT, select a few files by pressing down-down-down on keyboard. Without releasing SHIFT press up-up-up. Expected: no files selected. Actual result: two of them still selected.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: Alex on August 06, 2015, 12:56:24 PM
Hello!

Thank you for your interest in Commander One! Let me address your questions:

1. Commander One requires Accessibility permissions to be able to execute terminal commands (built-in command line), get access to user processes (built-in Process Viewer), get access to hidden files, etc. This option allows the program to run its system functionality.

2. The following requests have been forwarded to the corresponding department for consideration. First two are already planned for future upgrades of the software:
- is it possible to configure Spacebar to select a file then go to the next line like FAR / MC does?
- is it possible to activate numeric keypad (PgUp, PgDn, Home, Ins to select etc) to work like in FAR? I see that gray "+" is already working.
- automatically CTRL-O-ing after executing the command would also be nice.

3. The difficulty you've described with selection is a common behavior of file-managers of this type. Once selecting the file with Shift+arrow, Commander One selects the highlighted file and highlights the next one in the pressed direction. So, if you switch direction to opposite, without releasing the Shift key, the program will select the currently highlighted file, and deselect the previously selected. It is logic of keyboard selection, not bug. To avoid selecting the unneeded files, release the Shift key, then highlight the selected file, and press the shift+arrow again, to remove the selection from the certain object.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: zmeyc on August 08, 2015, 11:57:53 PM
Alex, thanks for the response!

Regarding file selection: I understand why it works this way, but most apps manage selection differently.
Try doing the same in Finder or X-Code or Apple Mail or basically any other app.

Inverting a selection is very rare case and users won't expect this behavior imho. Undo is needed very often as it's easy to accidentally select more files than needed when holding down an arrow.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: joelw135 on August 20, 2015, 05:19:09 PM
Does commander One run at startup? If not is there a way to do this?
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: dshadoff on August 21, 2015, 08:05:41 AM
I have also been happy to discover Commander One, after being a long-time user of Norton Commander, Windows Commander, and Total Commander on PCs, and I am finding Commander One to be the closest thing I've seen so far on Mac.

Fantastic job you're doing so far - please keep it up !

I have a couple of suggestions:

(1) Please allow a smaller minimum vertical resizing to allow it to be smaller vertically; once increased, it will not resize down to less than about 25 rows (at 12-point font size).  Even the initial height upon initial install is smaller than the 'minimum' allowable by dragging the edge after it has been expanded.

(2) The column 'kind' doesn't seem very useful, since there are icons (but filetype) next to the filenames by default; however, 'permissions' or 'owner' might be helpful, so this column might be more useful with that kind of information.  (Ultimately, it would be nice to be able to select which columns we want to see, and perhaps what format - for example, date as 'YYYY/MM/DD 24HH:MM' - but again, that's long-term and lower priority).

(3) In the 'size' column, if the size is selected to be 'bytes' (instead of 'dynamic'), could you remove the word 'bytes' from the value displayed in the column ?  This is redundant, and makes the displayed value much too long.  I'm not sure if 'bytes' is necessary even for the 'dynamic' setting.  Perhaps 'B' is better (following the pattern of 'KB', 'MB', 'GB', 'TB').

(4) I noticed that holding 'Alt' and typing the first few characters of the filename will position to the file, *BUT* if there is a slight pause while typing - even while continuously holding the 'Alt' key - the search string seems to be reset.  Is there any way to adjust this ?  Perhaps a longer timeout ?

(5) I see that the file viewer is configurable (a couple of choices), but not the editor.  It would be nice to be able to choose the editor too (For example, I use 'vi' for editing textfiles 99% of the time).

(6) (Lower-priority but still important): It would nice to speed up the directory-scan (when you traverse into a new directory, and Commander One needs to read information about the files in order to display it).

(7) (Long-term goals): My favorite features in Total Commander were: (a) 'Compare by content' (visual-diff between selected files in left and right panes), and (b) 'Synchronize Dirs', which would determine which files to copy to the other side based on various criteria.

-Dave
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: macfanb0y on August 24, 2015, 11:33:20 AM

(5) I see that the file viewer is configurable (a couple of choices), but not the editor.  It would be nice to be able to choose the editor too (For example, I use 'vi' for editing textfiles 99% of the time).


+1 . I want that Sublime is my default editor.

It would also be great to customize the "Disk List" with my favourites.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: taichimaster on August 24, 2015, 08:24:55 PM
Awesome product!!  Previously tried muCommander and PathFinder and think this one is better and have huge potential!

Took me a while to find the "star" button to add my favorite folder.

+1 on needing a hotkey to bringing that list up (or just adding the favorite list to the drive list).

+2 on the ability to configure custom editor.

Is there a way to customize the columns (specifically I would like make the "name" column to display the full name including the extension, and get rid of the ext column)?

Title: Commander One
Post by: mac_the_fork on August 25, 2015, 02:28:18 PM
Hi all,
Am testing Commander One. So far, I think it is a great tool. Keep up the good work.

2 questions/suggestions:

1) How to switch between tabs of one panel using a keyboard command? CTRL-TAB, OPTION-TAB, ... combos didnt work. Didnt find it in the keyboard prefs.

2) After running a file search, and "Feed to active panel", several file actions are no longer available on these files, such as Delete. I recommend allowing all file actions as in a normal panel viewing files in a standard folder.

Cheers. Mac
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: Rustrans on September 09, 2015, 10:15:53 PM
Great app! This seems to be the best replacement of TC the only app i missed after switching to Mac.
A few suggestions / questions:

1. Now, when i delete a file the selection jumps to the top of the folder, which is very inconvenient when i delete files one by one. Is it possible to make it select the next file or in other words, stay where it is at, so the next file gets selected once the currently selected file is deleted and gone.
2. System wide keyboard shortcuts do not seem to work. For example i have CTRL + CMD + P to open currently selected folder in VOX but this does not work in C1.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: 2Dutch on September 24, 2015, 09:42:34 PM
Hey guys, I've been trying out Commander One for a couple of days now, and I've noticed a few things:
- Via the Preferences, the "Link Account" button on the Dropbox tab doesn't do anything
- The app does not remember the size of the 2 panes when restarting: instead of 50/50 it's opening with 25/75 size of the panels

I'm using the latest beta of El Capitan (10.11.1) in case it is relevant :)
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: Alex on September 25, 2015, 03:21:57 PM
Hello guys!

Thank you for your feedback and please accept our apologies for the delay in replying. Let me address all your questions:

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Does commander One run at startup? If not is there a way to do this?

You can manually configure the software to launch on startup, by adding it into login items of your user. System Preferences --> Users & Groups --> unlock the settings --> choose your user --> Login Items --> "+" --> choose Commander One from the applications list and add.

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Please allow a smaller minimum vertical resizing to allow it to be smaller vertically; once increased, it will not resize down to less than about 25 rows (at 12-point font size).  Even the initial height upon initial install is smaller than the 'minimum' allowable by dragging the edge after it has been expanded.

This request has been forwarded to our software developers for consideration.

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The column 'kind' doesn't seem very useful, since there are icons (but filetype) next to the filenames by default; however, 'permissions' or 'owner' might be helpful, so this column might be more useful with that kind of information.  (Ultimately, it would be nice to be able to select which columns we want to see, and perhaps what format - for example, date as 'YYYY/MM/DD 24HH:MM' - but again, that's long-term and lower priority).

We consider adding new columns and allowing to disable already existing columns in the upcoming upgrades of Commander One. We have no ETA for the closest upgrade yet, but I can assure you that functionality of the software will be greatly extended.

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Is there a way to customize the columns (specifically I would like make the "name" column to display the full name including the extension, and get rid of the ext column)?

If you navigate to Commander One Preferences --> View --> "Show full file name", "Name" column will display file extension as well.

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In the 'size' column, if the size is selected to be 'bytes' (instead of 'dynamic'), could you remove the word 'bytes' from the value displayed in the column ?  This is redundant, and makes the displayed value much too long.  I'm not sure if 'bytes' is necessary even for the 'dynamic' setting.  Perhaps 'B' is better (following the pattern of 'KB', 'MB', 'GB', 'TB').

Thank you for pointing our attention to this matter, we will try optimizing "size" column to be more user-friendly.

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) I noticed that holding 'Alt' and typing the first few characters of the filename will position to the file, *BUT* if there is a slight pause while typing - even while continuously holding the 'Alt' key - the search string seems to be reset.  Is there any way to adjust this ?  Perhaps a longer timeout ?

Yes, this is the common behavior of the file managers of this type. While typing the file name, Commander One automatically locates the file in the list. But if you pause the typing for a while, it starts the new search from the beginning. As for the extension of the resetting period, I have reported your request to the software developers.

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I see that the file viewer is configurable (a couple of choices), but not the editor.  It would be nice to be able to choose the editor too (For example, I use 'vi' for editing textfiles 99% of the time).

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+1 . I want that Sublime is my default editor.

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+2 on the ability to configure custom editor.

This feature is requested a lot and already planned for the future upgrades of Commander One. Unfortunately, we can't specify the estimated terms yet, so please stay tuned.

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(Lower-priority but still important): It would nice to speed up the directory-scan (when you traverse into a new directory, and Commander One needs to read information about the files in order to display it).

I can assure you that searching and scanning protocols are continuously being optimized and each new release of the upcoming versions will be faster, more stable and include new options. Commander One is a long-term project and we have lots of features planned for the future.

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(Long-term goals): My favorite features in Total Commander were: (a) 'Compare by content' (visual-diff between selected files in left and right panes), and (b) 'Synchronize Dirs', which would determine which files to copy to the other side based on various criteria.

Both this features have been already requested by other clients and being considered by our developers. I will add your requests to the list as well.

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Took me a while to find the "star" button to add my favorite folder.
+1 on needing a hotkey to bringing that list up (or just adding the favorite list to the drive list).

This feature has been already requested several times, I will rise the priority with your request.

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How to switch between tabs of one panel using a keyboard command? CTRL-TAB, OPTION-TAB, ... combos didnt work. Didnt find it in the keyboard prefs.

Currently, there is no shortcut for switching tabs within one panel, only panels themselves (def. Tab). But, this option is planned for future upgrades of the file manager.

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Hey guys, I've been trying out Commander One for a couple of days now, and I've noticed a few things:
- Via the Preferences, the "Link Account" button on the Dropbox tab doesn't do anything
- The app does not remember the size of the 2 panes when restarting: instead of 50/50 it's opening with 25/75 size of the panels

I'm using the latest beta of El Capitan (10.11.1) in case it is relevant

I am sorry, but the release version of Commander One is not compatible with 10.11 yet. The support of the newest OS will be added in the next upgrade.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: bruno321 on October 02, 2015, 09:26:04 AM
I realize that for many people this app's appeal is the dual window view, but for me it's not this but other features. Is it possible to disable it?
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: Alex on October 05, 2015, 11:29:30 AM
@bruno321, the main feature of Commander One is dual-panel view, which it inherited from other file managers of this type. There is no option to disable the second panel, but you can reduce its size, by dragging the separator to either side. 
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: flips on October 05, 2015, 12:02:46 PM
Commander One is the best NC/MC kinda filemanager I've encountered on the Mac so far.  8)

I was wondering: Would or could it be possible to filter the contents somehow?
By that I mean the possibility to only show files matching certain criterias.
(So I could show only *.txt and sort by date, so easily pick out those 14 files of a certain kind changed within a certain date span.)
Title: Re: Commander One - Lock Tabs?
Post by: drb on October 05, 2015, 03:16:30 PM
In Total Commander (Win), there's a way to lock tabs, as well as to lock tabs but allow for directory changes. Is there a way to do these things in Commander One?
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: Alex on October 06, 2015, 11:19:07 AM
Commander One is the best NC/MC kinda filemanager I've encountered on the Mac so far.  8)

I was wondering: Would or could it be possible to filter the contents somehow?
By that I mean the possibility to only show files matching certain criterias.
(So I could show only *.txt and sort by date, so easily pick out those 14 files of a certain kind changed within a certain date span.)

Thank you for your feedback! I am sorry, but there is no way to show only specific files in main file manager window. In order to select certain files by date and type, just do the following:

1. Sort files by date in chronological or reverse order by clicking on the "date" column.
2. Sort them by file type, by clicking on "ext" column.
3. This way all the files in the folder will be sorted by file type, but each individual file type will be sorted by date. So, you may select the the certain files within one date in a row.

In Total Commander (Win), there's a way to lock tabs, as well as to lock tabs but allow for directory changes. Is there a way to do these things in Commander One?

Currently Commander One is not capable of locking tabs, but we are planning to extend tabs functionality in the upcoming upgrades of the software. Please, stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: taichimaster on October 08, 2015, 06:24:03 PM
What do you think about adding a "Find/Search" function to the built-in viewer?  I find myself opening up text files for quick viewing using F3, but there is no way to search within the file.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: kecinzer on October 13, 2015, 02:12:48 PM
Hey guys, I've been trying out Commander One for a couple of days now, and I've noticed a few things:
- Via the Preferences, the "Link Account" button on the Dropbox tab doesn't do anything
- The app does not remember the size of the 2 panes when restarting: instead of 50/50 it's opening with 25/75 size of the panels

I'm using the latest beta of El Capitan (10.11.1) in case it is relevant :)

Same behaviour here about panels size. It's 25/75 after start. Version Version 1.0 (1344) - Commander One PRO.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: inforlk on October 14, 2015, 08:05:47 PM
I've been testing your application and there are some options that I would like to add:

- To decompress a file using another compressor (keka) or to open with ... (application list)

- To decompress files they can be left in the background to perform other tasks

- To have an option to check compressed files

All these actions make the Total Commander PC is wonderful.

I hope to see in Commander One. Thanks and sorry my english.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: heinzb on October 14, 2015, 08:48:07 PM
Congratulations for a good start  :D
My 2 cents on missing features:
- Keyboard shortcuts currently only cover a subset: e.g. going up a folder is customizable but entering a folder is not (e.g. I prefer navigation with left/right arrow keys)
- Quick Filter is my most important productivity feature: instead of only typing some letters of the start of a filename, with Quick Filter you can customize whether it's possible to type letters e.g. from the middle of a filename (useful if many files in a folder have the same prefix like com.apple.). Quick Filter typically also allows to really narrow the file list to the currently matching characters typed.
Have a look at how Total Commander implements this (it really rocks). On Mac currently only Crax implements this (plus the not-Mac-specific cross platform filemanagers like MuCommander and DoubleCommander).

Besides that I +1 the other replies here like customizable editor, sync dirs, compare by content :)
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: kecinzer on October 15, 2015, 08:39:03 AM
After a day of full usage I have to say that many features are missing. For Appstore price EUR 1,99, it's good, but if I paid full price, I will be very mad :).

- Panels arragement on start it’s 25/75 - Commander don’t remember position.
- Quick Search - don’t search from middle of the file name, it’s not possible to bind quick search to some key (like ALT or SHIFT).
- Possibility to unmount devices from panels, even add context menu.
- Configurable external F4 editor!
- Improve quick look behaviour - it can’t be closed by escape, but inly by key that is binded for.
- Multiple rename!
- Respect localized names of folders.
- Configurable full view columns (remove, add).
- Actual speed of copy/move files/folders.
- Actions indicator in panel icon.
- FTP connection timed out.
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: Alex on October 22, 2015, 12:50:38 PM
What do you think about adding a "Find/Search" function to the built-in viewer?  I find myself opening up text files for quick viewing using F3, but there is no way to search within the file.

Thank you for your feature request. It has been forwarded to our software developers and we will consider  extending standard features of built-in viewer application.

Same behaviour here about panels size. It's 25/75 after start. Version Version 1.0 (1344) - Commander One PRO.

 We assume that you are using the very first version of Commander One, or the edition from App Store, under Mac OS El Capitan. That is why you are experiencing those problems.

If you use version from our web-site, navigate to Commander One main menu --> Check for Updates... and make sure that you are using the latest version. Then, go to Preferences --> Advanced tab, and enable all options, under "Save on quit" list.

In case if you are running App Store edition of Commander One, the only thing we can suggest is waiting till the upgrade with El Capitan compatibility is released.

I've been testing your application and there are some options that I would like to add:

- To decompress a file using another compressor (keka) or to open with ... (application list)

- To decompress files they can be left in the background to perform other tasks

- To have an option to check compressed files

~ I would like to inform you that "Open with" option has been added to Commander One since the latest upgrade of the edition from our web-site.

~ In order to decompress files in the background, open archive in Commander One with double-click, to view its content. Then, drag a file out of the archive or use Copy (F5 def.) option, and queue the copying with F2 key. Here you may find more information about queuing:
http://wiki.eltima.com/user-guides/commander/queue.html

~ We are sorry for possible misudnerstnading, but you can check the compressed files withot a problem. Just open the archive in Commander One to see its content, then choose a file and hit View button (F3 def.), and the file will be decompressed and opened in viewer.   

My 2 cents on missing features:
- Keyboard shortcuts currently only cover a subset: e.g. going up a folder is customizable but entering a folder is not (e.g. I prefer navigation with left/right arrow keys)
- Quick Filter is my most important productivity feature: instead of only typing some letters of the start of a filename, with Quick Filter you can customize whether it's possible to type letters e.g. from the middle of a filename (useful if many files in a folder have the same prefix like com.apple.). Quick Filter typically also allows to really narrow the file list to the currently matching characters typed.
...
Besides that I +1 the other replies here like customizable editor, sync dirs, compare by content :)

Thank you for your requests, they have been forwarded to our developers along with the others.

Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: dmitryb on July 10, 2016, 02:45:19 PM
First time tried Commander One.

Looks and feels as a very clean and nice application with huge potential! :) So I'm very much hope you continue the good work.

I'll write down here a few things I'm missing in the application right now, maybe developers will consider them as new features for new releases.
* It seems to be not possible currently to switch between open tabs with keyboard, would be nice to have shortcuts.
* Have a shortcut to open folder in a new tab.
* Have an easy access to the favourite folders list, ideally have a dropbox in the pane similar to the disk dropbox which is accessible with a shortcut.
* As it was mentioned already by others in this thread, configurable Editor is important.
* Same as Editor, would be nice to be able to choose my favourite Terminal application.

Thanks one more time for the good work so far, especially for drive list dropboxes accessible by shortcuts and easy, mouse-free file selection!
Title: Re: Commander One
Post by: diegocanal on July 17, 2016, 05:37:30 PM

* As it was mentioned already by others in this thread, configurable Editor is important.


Being able to choose the editor is a must, it would turn Commander One Pro into the best FTP/SFTP client for Mac OS X –I am an active user of Transmit, Forklift and Yummy FTP Pro and I have good reasons to say so–.

Thanks!
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Diego